what i'm asking here and i want you both to weigh in on this, what's president obama's agenda. when i say the case for re-election i'm talking about a future agenda and future strategy. you may not like it, but what is it? that's what i'm trying to define. tom stemberg, you first and now i want governor dean. >> i've been listening to the president now since the campaign began and other than it's a vague idea and tax the rich some which by the way, will begin to cover the tremendous trillion dollar hole we face each year. i haven't heard much of a plan. there have been attacks, but no plan. you may not like ryan's plan, i get that, but he does have a future strategy and this is what he's going to try to do. >> let me ask the question. >> what people are asking president obama is what will you do -- in order to be elected, what will you do in the future? i don't think he's done a good job or any job putting that out there. >> i think it's been very clear. he will continue to attract the deficit. he'll look at the tax reform which i think is very important, if you get any help fr